Mass Effect 2 Perfect Ending
The Mass Effect companions, ranked from worst to best. In Mass Effect 2 those character arcs essentially become the story. You're rewarded with a total gut punch of an ending that perfectly. Huge spoilers ahead for Mass Effect 2: So I've beaten 2 many times before with the best ending, in which all 12 squadmates survive and are loyal. Right now I am trying to play a game where I have the worst possible outcome that can be imported into Mass Effect 3. My goal is to have only a single squadmate survive the mission to pull Shepherd in at the end. If you do not have Mass Effect 2 installed, just create the folder structure yourself exactly as shown in the walkthrough. Xbox 360 visitors: Please visit the Xbox 360 page to see how both masseffectsaves.com AND NOW masseffect2saves.com are useful to you!
A week ago I dropped my Ultimate Ranking of Mass Effect Companions into the PC Gamer Slack channel and destroyed productivity for an hour. This tends to happen whenever we talk about Mass Effect: any conversation around the best games in the series, best missions, and most definitely the best characters.
It says something about Mass Effect, that we still feel so strongly about its stories nearly a decade after entering that universe for the first time. We're just as passionate about the characters we love as we are about the ones we hate.Bioware built on the template it established with Knights of the Old Republic throughout the Mass Effect series. First they're fun diversions, filling out the world with lore. Then they become romance partners, and your interactions with them influence how they grow and change and even affect the world around them. In Mass Effect 2 those character arcs essentially become the story instead of secondary concerns, and wrapping up those trilogy-long arcs in Mass Effect 3 after five years is something we'd never really experienced before in gaming.So these companions mean a lot to us. I knew publishing my list would be a bloodbath, so we decided on a compromise: let democracy decide (but seriously Jack is the worst, no matter what this list may say). The PC Gamer team voted on the companions, ranking them from 1-20 to create this: the truly definitive list of the best Mass Effect sidekicks to have kinky alien sex go space adventuring with.20.
Jacob TaylorIt's a heavy risk, being the boring male starter companion in a BioWare RPG. Of the three men to fulfill this role in the Mass Effect series, Jacob struggles most. James Vega is enjoyably portrayed by Freddie Prinze Jr., and has a fun role in the Citadel DLC.
Kaidan Alenko has personality-enhancing migraines and you're allowed to abandon him on an alien world with a nuclear bomb. Jacob's destiny is to promise you a beer that he'll never buy you and his most earnest wish is to give up a life of space adventure and start a family.He manages to have the strangest daddy issues of any Mass Effect 2 character, and that is a competitive field, but it's not enough to raise him above the parapets of mediocrity. His defining moment is, delivered at the culmination of his romance arc. It is the worst moment in Mass Effect. Sorry, Jacob. You are the worst companion. The prize was not worth it.
— Chris Thursten19. Kaidan AlenkoThere's only one thing that elevates Kaidan Alenko over Jacob Tyler as a boring male starter companion: you can kill him. Zaeed MassaniI still hold a grudge against Mr.
Tough Guy Combat Veteran for letting me down in Mass Effect 2's suicide mission finale. If he's so seasoned, why did he utterly fail me as a commander, getting one of my squadmembers killed? Thanks for nothing, Zaeed. And that scar doesn't make you look as cool as you think it does.I saw through the thin veneer of Zaeed's character to what he really was: a less interesting retread of KotOR's Mandalorian Canderous Ordo. None of Zaeed's war stories could possibly compare to Ordo at the head of an army of invading Mandalorians.
MorinthMorinth's best-case scenario, as a squad member, is that she replaces Samara in your crew—but she just masquerades as Samara, and the trade never really amounts to much. And that's the extent of her role. She's a poor replacement for the more interesting and conflicted justicar. As an antagonist, though, she's great—I remember the cat-and-mouse game of catching Morinth as one of Mass Effect 2's most exciting moments, knowing the wrong dialogue decision could lead to death or failure. JavikThere's probably something good to say about Javik, the dethawed prothean who joins your crew in Mass Effect 3 if you paid $10 for the day-one From Ashes DLC. But as it turns out, most of our staff didn't have Javik in their crew, earning him the indifferent shrug of 16th place.
While he may not have been essential to Mass Effect 3's plot, I think it reflects poorly on Bioware that the one character who could offer significant insight into the protheans wasn't part of the base game. In an alternate timeline, Javik could've been pivotal to the story and ranked much higher in our collective memories. James VegaWhen picking a member of your crew to romance, I think most of us share a general rule: humans are boring and we mainly want to bang weird aliens. Vega isn’t really an exception to the rule: he’s just a normal human dude, nothing to really get excited about. I’ve grown a bit foggy on the details of his story, but the more I talked to him, the more I wound up liking him, especially watching him awkwardly hit on me, his commanding officer.
Ultimately, he’s just a human dude and thus not much of a draw. — Chris Livingston14. Kasumi GotoKasumi's Stolen Memory is probably my favourite DLC across the Mass Effect trilogy—it lets Shepard play at being James Bond by infiltrating a party at a mansion, and Kasumi's introduction as a slick, invisible thief (as well as something of a loner) makes her seem very different to the rest of the Normandy's crew.Her back story with Keiji, her former partner in crime, is explored in a powerful, heartfelt way in her Stealing Memory loyalty mission. It becomes clear to Shepard how badly she's been wounded by his death, and you get to help her exact revenge on Donovan Hock, his killer. You're rewarded with a total gut punch of an ending that perfectly completes her arc.In battle, Kasumi's Shadow Strike ability means she's one of the game's more visually interesting party members, too, vanishing and then popping up behind an enemy to damage them.
I'm aware you can find Kasumi in Mass Effect 3 and its Citadel DLC, although sadly I didn't for some reason, even though I kept her alive in Mass Effect 2.She's not many people's favourite character, clearly, but I'm just relieved she beat Kaidan and James Vega in this list. Ashley WilliamsLook, I'm very sorry everybody, but 13th place is a travesty.
I voted Ashley for 3rd place, behind Garrus and Mordin. This isn't the most disappointed I've been by democracy in 2016, but it's in the top five. Earlier in the year I wrote for Official Xbox Magazine, which appeared on our sister site GamesRadar+ in November. But I'll give you the short version: Ash is one of the most substantially well-rounded characters in the series and one of the few that doesn't need Shepard to step in and fix her life.She's among the few characters to seriously question Shepard's decisions, particularly when it comes to Cerberus, and she's willing to challenge you—at gunpoint, if necessary—when she feels that you're in the wrong. She's more than a sidekick and you get the impression that she could have been the main character had she not been wrenched away from the Prothean beacon at the start of the first game. She deserves better than 13th place and the 'space racist' meme.
If you left her on Virmire, we cannot be friends. — Chris Thursten12. SamaraShe's Judge Dredd with a serial killer daughter. However you play Samara across ME2 and ME3, Shakespearean death follows, making her one of Mass Effect's most tragic characters.
On her loyalty mission, you have to make the decision between Samara dying or killing Morinth, her deadly fugitive offspring. Apart from ME2's actual suicide mission, she's one of three companions (Tali and Legion being the others) who can commit suicide in the game—in Samara's case, out of failure to fulfill her oath and execute her only living daughter, who's forbidden from leaving a monastery. Phew.Samara's rigid, implacable adherence to the Justicar Code means that she's the only character in the series with zero moral grey area. It's a powerful premise in a game that's all about tough decisions, where you have to weigh the benefits of a brutal-but-effective party member against the occasional summary execution their capital-L Lawful alignment might inspire them to perform.
Having an extremist around makes Mass Effect more interesting. —Evan Lahti11. GruntGrunt has a lot going for him. For one thing, his name's Grunt. For another, he's voiced by Steve Blum, whose growls have been in approximately one billion games and anime series, but most famously as Cowboy Bebop's Spike Spiegel, a character dear to my heart.
His craggy headscales look awesome. His suit kind of makes him look like Iron Man, if Iron Man skipped leg day for 40 years and bench-pressed an elephant every day.He doesn't have much to him as a character beyond punching things and talking about fighting, but that can be a refreshing change from the philosophizing and soul-searching of the rest of the crew. EDIHonestly I'm still grossed out that Bioware chose to give the Normandy's AI a sexy robot body, and then wrote in a plot thread about Joker wanting to have sex with her.
We all know that beneath the space opera Mass Effect is really about sexing up the galaxy's sexiest aliens, but you didn't have to be so on the nose about it, Bioware. EDI might have had some fine dialogue and ruminations on what it means to be human, but let's be honest: Legion covers that territory just fine, making EDI's humanoid form feel mostly gratuitous.Also, I'm almost positive EDI was on Earth during my Mass Effect 3 finale, and somehow popped out of the Normandy with Joker at the end, blissfully alive. Talk about ruining my immersion. JackMy Shepard was damaged goods. He had a traumatic childhood, exposed to war and poverty from day one—it’s no surprise he was a huge Korn fan in my headcanon. So when Jack came into the picture, of course I saw a lot of my imaginary space person in her. She also had a terrible childhood, orphaned at an early age and subjected to torturous experimentation under Cerberus.
Jack is a character molded by forces entirely out of her control, rendered a literal psychopath by the powers that be, with little recourse beyond using her potent biotic powers to kill the jerks. They deserve it.She gets criticized for filling out the edgy archetype, a would-be villain with a deeply vulnerable side, and it’s true. But who’s to say there’s no substance to such an archetype? Edginess is an adolescent rejection of the status quo, and having grown up knowing only pain and isolation, Jack has earned the right to be as edgy and emotional as she likes. If she survives Mass Effect 2, she goes on to channel her trauma into activism, training young biotics as the Grissom Academy.
She finds a new sense of purpose, and because my Shepherd had yet to sort out his own trauma, helping Jack move past hers was cathartic for him. Subject Zero in the lore, but Subject One in our hearts. — James-Yeah, sorry, but still nope. Jack would have been bad in a mid-'90s THQ game. Miranda LawsonMiranda was my Shepard's romantic partner in Mass Effects 2 and 3, which I guess is a fairly safe choice in a series where you have the option to romance various aliens.
There's a lot going on with that character: her initial closeness to the Illusive Man and Cerberus suggests she's not to be trusted, and in the opening hours of the second game, she doubts Shepard and comes into conflict with him. Slowly, you win her round, and at a key point, you're forced to choose sides between her and Jack during an argument on the Normandy. That then relationship develops into a convincing romance where you realise you're on the same page about the mission at hand.Miranda's experience of genetic enhancements links back to her complicated relationship with her father, which is more closely and brutally examined in Mass Effect 3.
This personal crisis makes her one of the series' more complex characters, in my opinion, offering some clear motivations for why she is the way she is.I suppose I should also fess up to the fact I was watching a lot of the TV series Chuck in 2010, and the option to romance a BioWare character played by that show's cast member, Yvonne Strahovski, seemed like the correct thing to do. LegionDespite a bunch of humdrum sci-fi cliches—robots having an uprising, a collective hive-mind, and questioning whether or not they have a soul (barf)—Legion manages to remain an interesting character.
The fact that he crudely patched himself up with a piece of dead Shepard-Commander’s armor is not just cool, but the first sign that Legion is more than just a simple geth automation capable of independent thought and perhaps even sentimentality.While Legion doesn’t really have a sense of humor, per-se, he is often funny in that way robots have of flatly presenting data, such as the likelihood of someone being punched in the face by the volatile Jack (whom Legion also suggests be deactivated and shipped as cargo). I found Legion much more appealing as a companion than a particular Quarian I won’t name, and I was sadder to see him go than just about anyone else in the series.
— Chris Livingston6. Tali-Zorah nar RayyaMass Effect isn't the first bit of sci-fi to blend machinery and religion, but the entire concept of a migrant fleet as home and a pilgrimage as rite of passage is still a cool setup, and Tali's stories were a great bit of universe building in that first adventure.
Tali may not have been quite so memorable without the mystery of her face, preserved across all three games (I'm pretending that bad Photoshop job from Mass Effect 3 never existed). Even so, she may be the only companion with a story arc that spans across the entire trilogy.Early in Mass Effect Tali provides insight into the quarian relationship with the Geth, which plays a bigger picture in Mass Effect 2. Her personal conflict with Legion is a genuinely tense balancing act, and Tali's loyalty mission deepens your understanding of the geth/quarian conflict and the quarian customs.The conclusion of Tali's story in Mass Effect 3 was the most heart wrenching moment of the series for me. Here was a character I'd known for years. I liked her voice and curiosity, defended the galaxy with her, and cleared her name. But thanks to Mass Effect's binary good/bad morality system, I didn't have quite the paragon or renegade points to resolve the final showdown between Tali and Legion peacefully.
One of them had to die, and it would mean the eradication of a species. There's no perfectly happy ending here.
And there really shouldn't be.Mass Effect too often gives you that satisfying videogame outcome of 'solving' a storyline to get the good ending, but that's not the case with Tali. Her final step into adulthood ends with a heartbreak that Mass Effect was building to for five years. I still feel the sting of it.
Thane KriosThane is a coldblooded killer with a conscience that struggles against his own profession. Doomed with a disease that’s slowly killing him, he signs on with Shepard’s suicide mission against the Collectors in ME2 because he has nothing left to lose. That internal conflict is what makes Thane such a compelling sidekick—he’s basically the personification of Shepard’s own Paragon and Renegade choices, and is the literal representation of their team marching slowly toward almost certain death. Plus, who can resist that gravelly voice?
— Tom Marks-Let's be honest. He's up here because he's a hot killer insect boy. My Shepard banged him, FYI. — Phil-Nice.
Liara T'SoniOh, Liara. My sweet blue 106 year-old summer child. The easy mistake is to think that the asari scientist in only on the Normandy to serve as some sort of proxy conscience for the player.
Yes, Liara does provide counterbalancing compassion to Shepard’s necessary cynicism, but there’s more to her than simply just being “the nice one”.In practical terms, her academic insight into the Protheans makes her, literally, the smart pick for just about any mission. She’s certainly more likely to serve up nuggets of relevant info than almost anyone on this list. And as an all-in biotic character, Liara also has one of the handiest toolkits when it comes to combat. But the thing I like most is that she gives the game heart, without it having to be constantly bleeding.Liara is conflicted. By her mummy issues, by her lack of romantic experience, and by her inability to lie—but those doubts are offset by the sense of wonder and hope she brings to proceedings. As such she makes a fascinating alternate lens through which to view the Mass Effect universe. Unlike much of the cast, Liara is rarely sure about her answers (check out her doubts about the Krogan cure in the third game, for instance), which makes for a consistently interesting travel companion.She’s also got a killer story arc.
If your Shepherd falls for Liara, then she gives the best grief after your “death” in Mass Effect 2, which also perfectly sets up the hardening of her character, leading to her eventually becoming the Shadow Broker at the end of what is of course the best DLC story add-on. Liara, it was always you. Urdnot WrexI played the Mass Effect series with a single rule: no going back to an earlier save to revise decisions I made. What happened, happened, no matter the consequences. I broke this rule only once, in the first game, when an argument led to—shockingly, and I thought, unfairly—Wrex being shot dead in a cutscene.
I couldn’t live with that. Wrex was way too cool to die. That’s the only time I undid one of Mass Effect’s events.Wrex is cool (and my personal pick for best companion) because not only is he a tough-as-nails, battle-hardened veteran, he’s also a deep thinker, disagreeing with most other Krogans (including his father) about going to war after the genophage.
Plus, he’s big and bulky and has a really deep voice and cool scars and he’s just the best.There was no bigger disappointment than discovering Wrex couldn’t be my companion in Mass Effect 2, having been replaced with the lesser (but still decent) Krogan, Grunt. But that’s what a true badass does: accepts new responsibilities in place of galavanting around the galaxy. — Chris Livingston2.
Mordin SolusI love Mordin because he shows that you don't need stubble, a gravelly voice and a thousand yard stare to be an anti-hero. Mordin's quick-fire speech at first feels like a manufactured quirk, something to help you pick him apart from your small army of companions. However, it soon becomes clear that his upbeat demeanour hides a cold, calculating mind that has spent years dealing with the most difficult decisions in the solar system—decisions that Shepard is drawn into over the course of the second and third games. That machine-gun delivery is a product of a mind overflowing with thoughts, at once demonstrating his scientific brilliance and his anxiety. It's a symptom of the battle between logic and compassion that lies at the heart of his character.He's such a chipper fellow that it comes as quite a shock to learn that he's the gateway to Mass Effect's genocide subplot. As you bond with him, he opens, and you see him dissect the terrible problems he's faced with an analytical mindset. He has done the moral mathematics—he will kill a million to save ten million—but his genophage is a slow, painful deathblow for the Krogan.
As he travels with Shepard, he is forced to watch that species sputter out. None of your companions have faced a dilemma on this scale, but somehow this genius Salarian is able to bear the burden, and still find the optimism to sing a fine bit of. —Tom Senior1. Garrus VakarianGarrus has an advantage when it comes to a Mass Effect popularity contest: he's awesome. Also, he has a substantial role in all three games—the only other character you can say that about is Tali.
That's not exactly a fair fight. Tali's great, of course, but she struggles to rise above the quirky-little-sister companion archetype that CRPGs would do well to be rid off. Garrus is something else. He's your best pal, first and foremost, somebody whose objectives and attitude align with your own and who will always, always have your back. The journey from that first meeting between a frustrated CSEC officer and a novice Spectre during the Saren investigation to that last charge against the Reapers as a pair of war heroes is one of the best friendship stories in gaming. And if you decided to get all up in his insect-bird-man business, it's a lovely romance as well.Yet that's not all Garrus represents. The idea that Garrus is both dependent on Shepard and overshadowed by Shepard is one of the most nuanced bits of character writing in the series.
Heading out alone after Shepard's 'death', Garrus makes a mess of hero life: when Shepard finds him and relieves him of the Arkangel moniker, it's a relief. He wasn't cut out to be Batman: he was born to be Robin. But that's a sad thing to recognise, and—laudably—it's not something that Shepard is allowed to fully resolve.
There's no paragon-interrupting your way out of it. It's simply a thorn in your friendship, a blemish that makes their relationship all the more believable.The kindest thing you can do, when it comes down to it, is let Garrus win that one last shooting contest on the Citadel. Give the guy his moment. He deserves it. — Chris Thursten.
So basically guys, I've just finished my first ME2 playthrough.I imported my ME1 save-full renegade. Killed council. Picked Udina. Saved Rachni (I KNOW this will make a massive impact into ME3).In ME2, I fully upgraded everyone & everything there was to upgrade in the Tech Lab on Normandy.
I also completed everyone's loyalty missions. I went into Omega 4 with full guns blazing.When in Collector Base, I thought I made some sensible choices, but I still ended up with 2 crewmates dead- Tali & Garrus. MY TWO FAVOURITE CHARACTERS!!!!!WHY???? I sent Tali into the tunnels, and saved her through the heat things. She died when on the other side, we were trying to close the doors on the Collectors, and just before they closed she got shot through the head. Sucks.Then Garrus dies later on as well. I was utterly distraught.
I was sure my whole crew would survive!Also, my crew died (both lots). I didn't know there was a time limit to save the abducted crew, and I didn't send anyone back with the others.
So they all died.(OT- if you saved the Rachni, did no one else pick up on that Asari giving you the message from the Rachni Queen- how she still remembered what we did for her, and how the Reapers are just as much of a threat to us as them. So in the final battle, we will have the entire Rachni race at our side. I knew it'd be a good choice)Ok, so I just want to know- what choices did you make:Which crew members died for you? Who did you send where, for which roles? Who did you send back to escort the crew?
How long after they are abducted, and before you get to the base that you can save them all?I am going to start my second playthough soon. I'm going to finish off ME1 again first. This time try the paragon route.
Save council, save rachni, destroy base (I saved it last time. And immediately knew the I.Man would f.ck things up.). Ok, so I just want to know- what choices did you make:Which crew members died for you? Who did you send where, for which roles? Who did you send back to escort the crew? How long after they are abducted, and before you get to the base that you can save them all?I am going to start my second playthough soon. I'm going to finish off ME1 again first.
This time try the paragon route. Save council, save rachni, destroy base (I saved it last time. And immediately knew the I.Man would f.ck things up.)I lost Grutn and Tali.I sent Tali through the pipes. Miranda headed up the second fire team.Jack had the bubble.
Grunt led the distraction team.Mordin escorted the crew back.Now, I lost Grunt because I made a wrong choice in selecting him. You have to choose 'ideal' people for each role (ie a tech specialist like Tali, Mordin or Legion for the pipes, an experienced leader like Miranda, Jacob or Garrus for the other fireteams). If you DON'T, people die. This might be why your Tali died.It's not impossible to keep your crew alive AND your whole team. You just have to do it in a very precise way. When you get Legion and the Reaper IFF, you can only do ONE mission (Legion's Loyalty mission ideally) before going on to the Collector base. Otherwise you lose crew members.
You obviously had problems with loyalty Mr. OP.OT: I lost Zaeed, but only because I stupidly gave him command of the Second Second Fire Team. I thought all my guidance and team-building had prepared him.
Sadly not.And huzzah, 2000th post etc. Etc.Congrats on 2000.But what do you mean? I did everyone's Loyalty mission. And romanced Miranda.Also OT- I read in another post that Miranda at the end can betray Cerberus. How can you get this to happen?! I really really really like Miranda, but her loyalty to Cerberus was unfortunate (I still slept with her). I was renegade, remember.What do you have to do to make her betray Cerberus???
But what do you mean? I did everyone's Loyalty mission.
And romanced Miranda.There had to have been some Loyalty problem, because if they are loyal and you make smart choices, then they all live.However, if you side with one or the other during the fights, they lose loyalty. I assume you sided with Legion during the argument between Tali and he and never talked Tali into being your buddy again.That being said, i would have been distraught if Tali died. Legion was my only casualty. He was cool, but he was a robot.
Also i romanced Tali so. Snip my own rubbish-Congrats on 2000.But what do you mean?
I did everyone's Loyalty mission. And romanced Miranda.Also OT- I read in another post that Miranda at the end can betray Cerberus. How can you get this to happen?! I really really really like Miranda, but her loyalty to Cerberus was unfortunate (I still slept with her). I was renegade, remember.What do you have to do to make her betray Cerberus???Well with Tali it sounds like you didn't have enough points to resolve the fight between her and Legion. You lose her loyalty that way.With Garrus I'm not sure.And you need to bring Miranda to the final battle and do the paragon option at the final choice.
No one died for me. Everyone but Jack was loyal and I'd done all the loyalty mission prior to the Omega 4 relay opening up. I'd also got every upgrade for the Normandy. Is it just me, or is seeing the Turian Cannon open fire the most satisfying thing ever?I sent Tali through the heat vent, and Garrus led the fire team at every opportunity. Samara kept up the biotic field and Thane escorted them back to the Normandy.
I chose to destroy the Collector base and Miranda backed me up, betraying Cerberus in the process. The Illusive Man was not happy, but he can bog right off.
Imported ME1 with 100% renegade, let Ash to die (shes damn fugly, guh), saved the Rachni queen,saved council (don't ask.), picked Anderson for the council, rest was just evil all the way:DStarted out doing all the side missions I found on the adjacent systems, then got Zaeed, did his misison, got Garrus and Mordin on Omega, did more side missions, etc, etc, was evil all the way, romanced tali, got all upgrades for the Normandy. On the final mission I sent Jacob down the pipes since I dont rly care for him, he died. Jack died later as the random death or something, didn't rly liked her either.So all the important people (me, tali, zaeed, garrus, mordin and legion) r alive, yayOh also I gave Legion full control over the Geth from the Terminus systems. Hopefully that means I'll get 94902 Geth Colossus to fight the Reapers on ME3:D. Largely Paragon (Erika ain't come here for no foolishness though), let the rachni queen go, rescued Ashley, talked things out with Wrex, let Balak escape (Bring Down the Sky), placed first in all trials at Pinnacle Station, and held the Alliance back to focus on Sovereign, resulting in the death of the Council.
Jack died in a cutscene, Legion died when somara coulndt hold the biotic field, saved the crew but Zaeed died protecting them, Maranda died on the way back to the ship. Only 4 casualties, yay!.I miss LegionNote: I think its imposible to keep your squad alive and save the crew at the same time as far as I know.
If you go through the omega 4 as soon as the crew is taken you will save them. However if you do the loyalty missions the crew dies.That is untrue.Nobody died and I saved my crew.Made the whole 'suicide' mission angle kinda funny in hindsight. Also a lot of the script says 'people died to get here!'
Or 'those who survived!' Which made no sense.Here's what I did:- I bought every single ship upgrade and every single personal upgrade.- Did every loyalty quest.- Romanced Tali.- I was a paragon.- Tali opened the door. Jack held the shield.
Miranda was in charge of leading both time. Grunt escorted the crew. Finished the game with Mordin and Samara.In one cutscene Miranda took a bullet in the gut, but aside from flinching, she kept going and she's in my spaceship now, so obviously didn't die.I'm kind of curious now as to what it looks like when people die.I also wonder how much of a screw you have to be to die at the end. Jack died in a cutscene, Legion died when somara coulndt hold the biotic field, saved the crew but Zaeed died protecting them, Maranda died on the way back to the ship. Only 4 casualties, yay!.I miss LegionNote: I think its imposible to keep your squad alive and save the crew at the same time as far as I know. If you go through the omega 4 as soon as the crew is taken you will save them.
However if you do the loyalty missions the crew dies.Complete everyone's loyalty msiion before getting the reaper IFF (except legion's since you don't have him yet). Then immediately complete legion's mission. Aslo, get all the ship upgrades before the IFF (excpet the med bay). You can find the character death videos on youtube, but i wouldnt. After i watched it, after getting a connection to those characters, and even though it wasnt my character that did it. It hurt:(I think you need things like Jack's L5x implants and mordin's omnitool and legion's antianything gun.Tarkand you FAILED the suicide mission, because everyone lived.Though, you're forgetting about the few tens of thousands of colonists that've been liquefied into reaper baby food. And others that've been painfully experimented on.
Another thing I wonder about. Is who you pick as important as their loyalty?For example:I picked Jack to hold the Shield.
I figured she is supposed to be the most powerful Biotic ever. She was loyal. She survived and so did everybody. Someone in this thread said that when they picked Samara, Legion died because of it.
Was his Samara loyal? Or does it have nothing to do with Loyalty and Samara is just not strong enough?Same for the other thing. Miranda lead both team with no problem, by I see someone had a loyal Zaeed die when he 'lead' the team.I'm reading you 'have' to use Mordin to rescue the crew. But I used (a loyal) Grunt and nobody died. You can find the character death videos on youtube, but i wouldnt. After i watched it, after getting a connection to those characters, and even though it wasnt my character that did it.
It hurt:(I think you need things like Jack's L5x implants and mordin's omnitool and legion's antianything gun.Tarkand you FAILED the suicide mission, because everyone lived.Though, you're forgetting about the few tens of thousands of colonists that've been liquefied into reaper baby food. And others that've been painfully experimented on. Just ow.I actually wonder if could have saved Lillith or not.And yeah, tons of people died, but none from my crew:P. Another thing I wonder about. Is who you pick as important as their loyalty?For example:I picked Jack to hold the Shield. I figured she is supposed to be the most powerful Biotic ever. She was loyal.
She survived and so did everybody. Someone in this thread said that when they picked Samara, Legion died because of it. Was his Samara loyal? Or does it have nothing to do with Loyalty and Samara is just not strong enough?Same for the other thing. Miranda lead both team with no problem, by I see someone had a loyal Zaeed die when he 'lead' the team.I'm reading you 'have' to use Mordin to rescue the crew. But I used (a loyal) Grunt and nobody died.Legion opened the doors.
Miranda lead the first fire team. Jacob brought the survivors home. Samara held the biotic field. And for the kicker, Grunt lead the second fire team.
On retrospect, poor choice. I REALLY wanted Grunt to survive so I figured even if he was a bad leader, he has about a bagillion hitpoints so he couldn't die. Right?So I ended up saving the crew and having everyone survive. He was my only casualty. I'm pretty sure if I had replaced him with Miranda I would have finished flawlessly.
Space BattleIf the Normandy is not properly upgraded, each missing upgrade will result in a team member death before you even start the assault on the Collector base. I didn't lose anybody on my first play through and I didn't lose any of my crew either. (Except the ones I was supposed to lose I guess.) I got there in time to see one of the colonists liquefied, but saved everyone else. Did all the upgrades and all the loyalty missions before the Omega 4 relay, saved Jack's until I had enough paragon points to get both her and Miranda to save their disagreements until after the mission. Went after my crew immediately after they got taken. (Did Legion's quest before they got taken.) I think I had every upgrade I could get from my crew and had completely upgraded most of my armor and weapons.I used Garrus and Miranda in my squad, had Legion go through the tunnels and hit the buttons as fast as humanly possible (most of the time ignoring the collectors until after I'd hit it). Had Jacob lead the distraction squad, sent Tali home to the ship with the crew (I wanted her to survive), used Samara for the barrier field, I had my crew hold the line to stop the collectors while Garrus, Miranda, and I went off to kill the Reaper.
Miranda betrayed Cerberus for me and everybody got out alive.I'll see what happens on the next play through, I'm doing the loyalty missions now as an infiltrator.:P. Who you pick IS just as important as loyalty. So if you have everyone's loyalty, they can still die if you pick the wrong people for each job.For example, for the vents you need to send either Tali or Legion, because they are the tech experts. For the second squad leaders you need either Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob, as those are the ones that have experience leading others. If you pick someone other than those three, the person coming out of the vents will die because the second squad won't be laying suppressing fire as they're exiting the vents.
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For the biotic shield you need to have either a loyal Samara or Jack, as anyone else will run out of power because they're not a strong enough biotic.Also note that if you pick one person over the other in a confrontation (Tali vs. Legion or Miranda vs.
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Jack) the other person will lose loyalty. You need to use either of the persuade options in order to end the argument. If you don't have a high enough Paragon/Renegade meter, you can talk to the person who lost loyalty later and use a conversation option to regain their loyalty.As for the crew, you need to go after them RIGHT after they get taken.
If you do Legion's loyalty quest after the Reaper IFF, the crew won't be taken until you return from doing that quest. The longer you wait, the more of your crew members get liquified. And when you do finally find them, you need someone loyal to escort them back. I'd recommend Mordin if he's not in your squad, because he's the only outlier here - he sometimes seems to die randomly if he's left behind to hold the gate with the others, even if he's loyal. I have no idea why, maybe it's because he's old for a Salarian?And if you want Miranda to betray Cerberus, then you need to destroy the base and have her in your squad when you do it. It'll happen during that conversation.
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For me half of the Normandy crew died, because I still had to do Garrus, and Samara's loyalty missions. It was sad watching Kelly get turned into human paste, but it was nice to save Dr. I sent Legion through the pipes and had Miranda lead the first time.
I then had Tali escort the survivors, picked Samara for the biotic shield, and had Garrus lead the second team. Then I told them to hold the door, while Miranda, Garrus, and I kicked some reaper ass, and blew up the Collector base. However Jack died holding the door, which did not surprise me since she was not loyal.
However I was shocked when Jacob and Thane survived because they were not loyal either guess I got lucky on that one.